# Python "externally managed" on Linux (seen on Scientific Python discussions)

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Debian/Ubuntu systems are moving forward [PEP 668](https://peps.python.org/pep-0668/)

> **[Next Debian/Ubuntu Releases Will Likely No Longer Allow pip install Ouside A...](https://www.linuxuprising.com/2023/03/next-debianubuntu-releases-will-likely.html)**
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> The next Debian/Ubuntu releases will likely no longer allow pip install outside a virtual environment or separate Python installs because of conflicts

Fedora is discussing the move  
[https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/PythonMarkExternallyManaged](https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/PythonMarkExternallyManaged)